Tevis Cup 100 miles - July 28, 2007

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Tevis Cup 100 miles - July 28, 2007

Postby Pleasure Gaits on 25 Jul 2007, 21:22

I was in touch with Bobbie Lieberman who is competing in Endurance with her Tennessee Walking Horse mare Sport's Infatuated Gypsy. Gypsy gaited her way over 585 miles to win the award for the top Tennessee Walking Horse in
AERC owned and ridden by Bobby Lieberman. Bobby informed me about the yearly Tevis Cup that takes place this weekend.

What is the origin of the Tevis Cup?
The Tevis Cup was named for Lloyd Tevis (1824 - 1899) by his grandson Will Tevis, a prominent San Francisco businessman and early benefactor of the Ride. The trophy is awarded to the first rider to complete the 100 mile Ride whose mount is "fit to continue." It was first awarded in 1959 to Nick Mansfield, riding Buffalo Bill, an eleven year old Thoroughbred Cross gelding.

For the most part, the route is as it was in 1955. The Trail still goes from the Lake Tahoe Area to Auburn, but the years of population growth in the Sierras have taken their toll: Certain route modifications had to be made.

It is said that the Ride has 19,000 feet of "up" and 22,000 feet of "down". Is this true?
Pretty close. When the ride used to start a Squaw Valley the numbers were 17,040 feet of climbs (about 5,194 meters) and 21,970 feet of descents (about 6,696 meters.) Now that the starting line has moved to Robie Park, the overall elevation numbers are probably about the same, but new exact numbers have not been computed.

Bobbie Liebermann is not participating herself this year but will crew for a friend. However there are several gaited horses competing this weekend. If you follow the webcast, keep an eye also on Odom's Raven, a Kentucky Mountain Gaited Horse, who is back after completing strongly last year. This horse also does 100 milers barefoot! Raven and Sue Walz are an amazing team with t. Also, watch for Bruce Weary and his Missouri Foxtrotter Sugar. Last but not least the Dean and Natalie Moon are competing with Rocky Mountain Horses.

More info can be found: http://www.foothill.net/tevis/index.html

It would have been a great opportunity for writing down hours/miles in the "NWH Trail Riders Award" ;)
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Re: Tevis Cup 100 miles - July 28, 2007

Postby Sam on 30 Jul 2007, 11:49

I heard a lot that TWH's are more and more competing in Endurance in the States. When I started in a 21 km Endurance ride 2 month ago, I had a feeling that Walker can't compete with Ariabians who are the absolute specialists in Endurance. They go in a gallopp from start to end and could still go on for ever when the ride is finished.
Are there special classes in the States where Walkers are competitive or is there a certain distance where they are especially good at?
Would like to hear more about this topic if anyone has information and experience.
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Re: Tevis Cup 100 miles - July 28, 2007

Postby Tanja A on 05 Aug 2007, 11:19

Sam >>
It's the same picture in Denmark. Most endurance rides are won by arabians.
When you compete in endurance - which is what I plan to do eventually - the arabians have a headstart in the fact that they are more tough and "made for it", but we also had a Norwegian Fjordhorse place first (in front of several arabians) in the danish championships over a distance of around 80 km. When it's not the very long rides, the training is the vital thing, which decides whether you win or loose (though in danish endurance the motto is "to complete is to win!"), but maybe the arabians just get fit easier and faster, so that we have to work really hard to be as good. And I don't know many who would train for a 20 km ride like if they were competing to win a million dollars, which is probably what us non-arabian-riders have to do :mrgreen:
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Introduction (was Tevis Cup)

Postby longdistancerider on 15 Aug 2007, 21:16

Hi all,
Bobbie Lieberman here, greetings from southern California. I'm delighted to join this forum at Sandra's invitation and add what I can regarding gaited horses in endurance. I too came up in the sport riding Arabians, starting in the late 1970s, thinking that was the "only" breed that could do endurance. Then, three years ago my boyfriend introduced me to Gypsy, an amazing black TWH, and invited me to take over the reins. Gypsy just received her 1,000-mile medallion from AERC in a little over two years of competition and is just hitting her best stride.

We are seeing more and more gaited horses on the endurance trail, from Walkers to Spotted Saddle Horses, Icelandics, Missouri Fox Trotters, and there is a stunning buckskin Paso who has completed two of the toughest 100-milers this year -- Tevis and the Main Divide. One of the keys to gaited success, I believe, is to think "complete" not "compete" -- at least for the first year or two. In the US the trend is toward multi-day rides of 3 to 5 days and I think that gaited horses can do very well in this division. Check out the record of Bubba G, a Spotted Saddle Horse, on the AERC.org web site 'horse history' for a truly remarkable animal. (Yes, he's a freak, but there are lots of Bubbas out there waiting to be liberated onto the trail!)

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Re: Tevis Cup 100 miles - July 28, 2007

Postby Sam on 16 Aug 2007, 11:24

Hi Bobbie

I like your statement complete not compete and maybe this is what I forgot on my first endurance ride. I don't know what the spirit and atmosphere of endurance rides in the States are but here in Switzerland and is very competitive and I felt kind of alone with my TWH. I guess I should have taken someone with a TWH with me to focus on the important thing: complete!

Maybe next time......
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Re: Tevis Cup 100 miles - July 28, 2007

Postby longdistancerider on 16 Aug 2007, 16:37

In the US, the majority of riders want to complete the ride with a sound, healthy, happy horse who is "fit to continue". AERC's motto is "to finish is to win." The spirit and atmosphere at most of our rides is quite relaxed, especially on multi-days where horses and riders go out of camp almost in a casual manner. Horses who complete all days of a Pioneer ride (3, 4 or 5 days) often receive a lovely embroidered jacket. We are especially fond of "Duck rides" put on by Dave and Ann Nicholson in the western regions. Dave is a veterinarian known affectionately as The Duck, and his rides are famous for their beautiful scenery and relaxed atmosphere. (See see more at http://www.xprides.com/) Competitiveness is more in evidence at one-day 50- (and even 100-)milers and at more high-profile FEI or national championship rides. Many AERC members think we have evolved in two different sports. If there are many "hot shoes" on the course you can wait 10 minutes until the dust clears and then begin your ride. Yes, it's really fun to ride with another gaited horse since they move along so nicely together. BTW, the youngster on the first page of your web site looks like a terrific prospect: Is he a SSH?
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Re: Tevis Cup 100 miles - July 28, 2007

Postby Sam on 17 Aug 2007, 17:11

I would wish we would also have two sides to endurance but I feel it more from the competitive side and only one day rides most of the time. It would be very nice to have a group doing it just to complete and for the fun of it. It was very interesting to see all the pics about Tevis Cup as my good mother lives for over 30 years by now in the Lake Tahoe area and I know it quite a bit.

The little filly you see on the entry page is SAM's Royal Signature and she will be registered TWHBEA. Her mum is a Paint the Town breeding and the little lady is basically what I was waiting for for quite some years. We had to find a suitable mare first as most mares in Switzerland are babies out of the only breeding stallion we have here. And as I just love this guy we wanted to breed if possible bl/wh babies with him. As you surely know, finding a bl/wh mare with good gait, character and capability to pass on the colour etc. etc. is a really hard find but we finally managed and are extremely pleased with the result. :lol:

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